Pt. 7 - The Merger of Tabloids & Television
Jun 8th, 2007 by Jane Devin
Within hours of Anna Nicole Smith’s death, cable television was abuzz with rumors, innuendo, speculations, and wild theories. Stages and hours were filled with instant experts, roving reporters, and talking heads. Namesake hosts like Larry King, Glenn Beck, and Bill O’Reilly all took a bite out of the ratings-driven apple but Nancy Grace, Geraldo Rivera and Greta Van Susteren, in particular, turned the proverbial apple into an extended and often gluttonous meal.
The passionate zeal that made Nancy Grace a hero for the cause of the missing and murdered turned into something approaching fanaticism when it came to the Anna Nicole Smith case. I watched, dumbfounded, as Grace shared her stage with tabloid editors and improbable sources like unabashed fame-seeker Bobby Trendy, or unconvincing chameleon Jack Harding, the private investigator whose ever-changing story has never been substantiated.
Greta Van Susteren, who made a name for herself covering politics with a keen mind and on-point questions, appeared to turn off her common sense and discard her intelligence in favor of a zealot’s mission to convict Howard K. Stern of something, if not in an actual court of law than at least in the court of public opinion.
Geraldo Rivera, who has a long history of hits and misses, looked like he was throwing the game on purpose when interviewing key player Ford Shelley. His hollowed-out questions landed with a weary thud. What might have been a homerun for the veteran reporter ended up being an easy steal for his controversial guest.
The television coverage of the Anna Nicole Smith case was expansive. Given the circumstances of her death, preceded by her son’s demise just months earlier, both media and public interest were understandably high. Unfortunately, elements of the media weren’t just covering the facts of the case, but attempting to invent news, sometimes on a near hourly basis.
Tabloids joined television, and gossip overtook journalism in a way that America had never seen before. Discredited stories, like Kim Walther’s supposed bashing of Stern, made the rounds even after being outed as false. Dannielynn’s health was not only speculated about, but it was stated as near fact that she had or would have developmental disabilities, or that she was being starved so she would grow up thin. Bodyguard Maurice Brighthaupt was alleged to have changed his story, even after he strongly denied TMZ’s report that he had.
The media casually explored possibilities from a botched caesarian to suicide as causes of Anna’s death. Not casually, but with unrelenting aggression, they hypothesized, contrived, and continuously repeated the invented charge of murder. They served this charge on the twice-bereaved, grieving and embattled Howard K. Stern with barely a flicker of conscience. They repeated the charge even after Stern was officially cleared of any wrongdoing.
I watched, as much as the rest of the country did, and was shocked when the careless reporting normally associated with the worst tabloid publications entered television news. The disregard for facts was appalling in of itself, but the purposeful destruction of a man in the public arena, based on no evidence whatsoever, was chilling.
There were only a few beacons of light shining through the created shadows, and the most memorable of these, for me, were talk show host Larry King and investigative journalist Art Harris.
King, dignified and erudite, focused on the human element, and treated the stories of the deceased Anna and Daniel with respect. His past experience with the subjects, non-judgmental demeanor, and judicious questioning made the Larry King Show a respectable source of information.
Through his website and frequent television appearances, Art Harris filled the factual void of the Anna Nicole Smith case with — what else? — the facts. From Anna’s death in February, Harris has meticulously culled the truths from this multi-faceted story, in subjects ranging from autopsy to present-day court proceedings. His reports have become popular links on internet message boards, from CourtTV to TMZ, and Harris has become something of a hero among the crowd that found the mix of tabloid gossip and television news disturbing.
Oddly, CourtTV’s website prohibited its message board members from discussing Harris’s exclusive interview with Anna Nicole’s then-unknown stepbrother, Larry Dale Jenkins. Harris’s interview contained no innuendo; it was a straight-up Q&A, but the powers-that-be named “speculation” as the reason for the blackout. Odd, because neither CourtTV, the station, nor its website, showed any reservation whatsoever about allowing its television hosts, guests, or message board users to speculate, even wildly, about any other party in this case, including Stern.
Both during her life and after she passed, Anna Nicole Smith seemed to bring controversy to the public table. Journalists, tabloids, television hosts, and guest commentators had choices to make in how they covered the various issues that arose after Daniel, and then Anna, passed. King and Harris chose to take the high road of professionalism. It appears to have been a lonely road. Like a great number of other viewers, I saw broadcasters too often choosing exploitation over fact, and sensationalism over sound reporting. The public suffered through misinformation, but the misery of being falsely and recklessly accused of murder, as Howard K. Stern was, is incalculable.
Will it matter? Will the public tolerate another trial-by-television of this magnitude in the future? It shouldn’t take a lawyer like Lin Wood to effect change in the media, or to end purposeful slander and libel. It shouldn’t even take public pressure for news stations, or programs that purport to analyse the news, to report factually and with integrity — but it seems that is a choice that has been left to public tastes, as expressed through the ratings.
If we don’t choose wisely, we may one day find out that yesterday’s headline news was just a theory, and the information we relied on was only gossip after all.
Wow! What a great article! What we need now, is a way to incorporate “spam filters” into our brains while we watch the news.
A wonderful, thought- provoking read, as always Jane!
Dear Jane:
Brilliant summary of the media coverage in the Daniel, Anna and Howard saga.
Micha,
What a great idea, love it!
Jane, what a great article on the Media. Each and everyone of the people on these news networks, who had a part in the slander of HKS, should be made to apologize to him publicly. I would watch these shows religiously, but not anymore.
Jane, what a great wrap-up of the media coverage. Between your articles and Lin Wood’s legal advice, perhaps the media has learned something to prevent this same thing from happening again in the future.
This was a fantastic read. Thank you so much!!
I too, used to watch Nancy and Greta daily and am completely turned off now. They took it too far. I am not holding my breath for an apology though. The advertisement Greta is using for her interview with Larry says he is talking about “His FIGHT with Howard and Virgie” That is irresponsible. Just becasue Greta wants it that way does not neccessarily make it so.
The media is just like vultures. It swoops and swoons on anything in it’s path, right or wrong, but mostly wrong. It thrives on gossip and that’s too bad. It won’t stop here. They’re just waiting on the next hot story so they can destroy more innocent lives. Until someone gets deep in their pockets, the soot will continue to fall.
I too have been ill by the way the media portrayed Howard. Now I can’t help but question any case that I watch on TV. People in this coutry are always convicted of crimes they didn’t commit. In Howard’s case he was convicted and sentenced the day Anna died and to me this is uncalled for. The media should take responsibility of their actions. My belief is that the “Freedom of Press” is being taken to far in the country and feel that our Govenment should take some sort of action to protect people such as Howard. Even the coverage of Hollywood starlets is over the top and unnecessary. Do you really think I care how Paris Hilton did in prison, what Lindsey Lohan is doing in rehab or what crazy tactics Britney Spears has done now. This is a really good article and I think you should send a copy of it to Art and Larry King, I would think they would appreciate such kind words. .
Hit another home run Jane
I agree Lemay as well.. News will never be the same. Maybe they need to start posting links and/or showing documentation for everything they state as what the ‘normal’ viewer would consider facts. Show us the proof, not the speculation.
Enjoy your articles! Thank you for sharing.
This is so true! Trial by media…didn’t know our country signed up for such a thing. I also watched in amazement as they continued to “prove” what turned out to be mearly gossip. However many held it to be “God’s” word and believed it to the fullest. Thank you Jane for the reminder of why a lot of us where out here searching for the truth instead of accepting all the media hype.
This is what drove me, the media…I could not believe it but it did happen before
I too loved Larry King’s honor
Everyone who relies on mass media for information should see the reports as a starting point for research if the subject interests them.
Do not take the words and theories of so-called trusted public figures as unadulterated truth!
So many of today’s headlines require much more than a casual perusal of the story to glean factual information and informed opinion. I can list numerous instances of the media and politicos inciting near mass hysteria to sway the public to share in their opinions. Remember the nuclear threats from the 60’s? What about “global freezing” and the next Ice Age from the 70’s? Do I need to mention “global warming”?
Each decade seems to have an imminent threat that will leave it the last decade of existence as we know it. If only the internet was available to all in the years prior to the last couple! We must learn that, though there is information to subtantiate the possibilities of a possible threat, there is a truth somewhere between what is overzealously proclaimed by the fanatics and what is downplayed by opposing factions. Data can be manipulated in many ways to support the user. We need to learn to take data from many sources and integrate the total to come to our own conclusions.
Before anyone gives into the urge to curl into a fetal position and wait for the apocalypse, please research! Gather your own data, use your resources to determine the truth of the situation and don’t give in to pressure from the media or the angry mobs too eager to throw insults at you when you post on public sites.
Jane has taken that action and has provided us all another resource to gather facts and information to aid us in our searches. She has also received the brunt of the anger directed towards those of us who dare to oppose popular media reports. Facts seem to anger reactionary personalities when those same facts differ from the misinformation they rely on to keep their beliefs intact and, I guess, make them feel superior to everyone else.
I see these people as a challenge! I just can’t stand an uninformed know-it-all! And the ultimate reward is giving these same blowhards information backed with sources to disprove the misinformation and make them do the hard work of searching for the truth.
I am too old and cranky to let someone do my thinking for me! I have earned that privilege for myself and I will continue to do so. We are all so fortunate to have access to the world through the internet.
There is no longer a reason to believe what we are told and like it! The whole wide world is an open book as long as you know which search engines will answer your questions!
Thank you, Jane, for your words of truth and for the inspiration to keep seeking the truth in all we do!
Kim A……….Read your response, you have every thing perfectly said. Please excuse my response, my brain doesn”t always meet my keyboard. If everyone thought like you. we would live in a much better world. You sound like you might be around my age. When I was in school, TV was 2 stations ,radio 3or4. When we had a project for civics class, history,social studies I had to research the old fashioned way, I think what I learned stayed with me a lot longer. I wasn’t able to Google it again. So researching subjects comes more naturally, that the only way we would Know any thing. People are concerned about the violence children see, I am just as concerned about what they hear. Gone are the days when a mans/womans word are their bond.
This article was worth waiting for. Thank you, Jane.
Hi Jane,
Thank you for all you do. I tried so hard, day and night, blogging away on TMZ, trying to make people see the facts. The fact that Howard loved Anna.
As each day passed, I spent more and more time defending him. Last night around 3 am I read Art Harris and felt some more relief. Today I retired myself to the fact, the truth will continue to come out, and Howard will continue to shine. I left my calling card at the “will” site and also tried so hard at the “curling iron” site. People tried to destroy not only Howard but anyone who defended him. Names were stolen, identies were stolen, people were hurt and all because I believed in a man, who deserved better treatment, for a woman he so dearly loved. He is a strong man with great character and I believe he will be alright. Anyway, I sign this to you as the name I retired this morning, laughing so hard. Take care Jane and if there is ever anything I can do for you e-mail me. Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
Jane,
Applause Applause! I hope so very much that all the afore mentioned will come to your site and read this and hopefully hang their heads in shame and will open their eyes and see what they have done to an innocent man, not to mention to others they have wrongly accused in the past.
Sadly, I don’t think they will, not when it comes to the almighty ratings. I don’t watch the talking heads anymore. I have better things to do with my time than to watch them systematically destroy a human being, and for what? Ratings! I will only deal with the facts wherever I can find them and I know I can find them here and at Art Harris’s site.
I’ve lost most of any respect I may have had for the three major networks also, especially NBC. CNN was no better than Fox, therefore I will always wonder if I’m hearing the truth if and when I watch CNN, a station I used to respect.
Thanks Jane for this great article. This needs to be put in every newspaper and TV station across the country.
joni said,
“Thanks Jane for this great article. This needs to be put in every newspaper and TV station across the country.”
Unfortunately advertising costs money!!!
Dear Jane,
How ’bout a press release!!!
JANE…………. I have depended on you nd Art Harris since, February I think. I always said I would never need a computer. When I was watching these ( news programs) I would literally get out of my seat and pace, because I knew at least some of what they were saying was not true. How could they say these things, they are intelligent people , they have enormous budgets for research, but they don’t use their resources. NG rather grated on my nerves, and the rest just bored me. I felt like I was watching someone go to the gallows, and the louder I screamed it seemed the less they heard. THEN I got my computer and I discovered Google, then I found you, and Now I don’t have to fight alone. Ihave lost any respect that I had for these people. One of the large networks was buried in paper to bring back a show, to bad it wasn’t that easy to get rid of one.
JONI…………… You are right , this was more than a passing mention. ANNA was bigger than life, this was a national story. Janes article should be an editorial in every news paper, and every entertainment magazine in the US and CANADA.
JANE, PROFESSIONAL, POLISHED,RESEARCHED AND IMAGINATIVE. THERE IS NO GUESS WORK HERE! I PRAY THIS WILL LEAD TO THE BEST JOB YOU HAVE EVER HAD… LARGE SALARY WITH COMMISSION. I RESPECT YOU AND YOUR WORK… AND I DO MEAN WORK… FOR ALL THAT YOU DO… THIS ONE’S FOR YOU..EXCELLANT!!!!!J
Jane….. You are wonderful! I am happy to have found this site. I have posted my support of Howard on other sites and have been called names I had never imagined anyone would ever call me. As for the media - I agree with Kim A. - I refuse to “Let someone else do my thinking for me” and “I just can’t stand uninformed know it all’s” Early on I watched, listened and determined that it was a rat race and the rats were winning in the effort to destroy what was left of Howard Stern. I wonder if anyone in the media ever stop and really think of the damage they have done. Stupid question I know. Too many rats and not all in the media either.
So, Larry Birkhead’s going to be on tv again…and most will watch.
But, not me.
I’m no longer supporting tabloid television.
In fact, I haven’t for quite some time.
And I don’t BUY anything from their sponsors (advertisers)…….THIS IS KEY!!!
I’ve also reduced my cable ‘package’ to bare minimum, including only ESPN and Disney.
It’s probably a good time for Larry KIng to retire anyway.
Kim A -
Wonderful post. A bow with a hats off! Lovely. The way you write, what you say, and who you obviously are! It’s an honour to know you. Knowledge (and the urge to seek it) is power. No matter how young or old one is! How invigorating to hear a perspective so similar to my own so beautifully expressed.
: )
P.S. To All - On this discussion.
I taught my father how to use a computer when he retired at 67. He really hated everything I was trying to explain (the mouse, what the internet was, that you could look things up, etc…). We had bi-weekly times together to work with the computer and he tried to avoid me every time they were coming up. Suffice it to say, he got over all that. Now, (he just turned 76), when I have a technical problem with my computer - who do I call? You guessed it! My father. He’s become an expert on Photoshop, he can research any subject you ask him about, he’s subscribed to just about any artistic journal that exists and he buys “stuff” all the time. What an amazing world we live in today!
Mainstream media cannot compete with the internet. My father tells me so - he’s the one who first told me that Anna Nicole had died! Guess where he heard about that?
Jane-Wow again, another wonderful article. if you ever write a book, I want to know so I could be the first in line to buy my copy. There are only a few out of i’m sure billions of writers that can really hold my interest and I believe you are one of them. Bravo for another great read. I could not have said it better than your article. i totally agree with it. I too have been let down and disgusted with cable and tabloid news. I also enjoy Art Harris articles and reporting and LARRY KING. Thanks again. I enjoyed post # 24.
You are a rare breed of a writer. I absolutely admire you. I am impressed with your passion of writing that you are able to contain in words. I do love the way it stimulates me to consider my own through your perspectives. We need more open minded exploration of our thoughts and feelings and your site evokes this wonderfully.
I much enjoyed talking to you, and it was a very enlightening experience. Thank you for your many gifts that you bring to us through your website. As one of the many netsleuths, we can just as enpower any media tabloids in more ways than one.
Tia
Jane, WHAT a clear, concise and thought-provoking article on the poluted media, (tv and press tabloid (Greta, Nancy, Geraldo, and I include King in TABLOID reporting; although Jane you are quite gracious in giving King honorable credit). The media –all forms of media — is abusive and arrogant. Integrity wise, Art Harris, Jane and QV are head and shoulders in quality reporting — far above the GV, N, G and LK ilk. I share the opinions of EJ #6, Kim #12 and Freida #22 (suggesting King retire). For an overview of news nationally and internationally, I make at least two vists/day to the Drudge Report and listen to Rush Limbaugh who has a 99.7 accuracy in reporting and interpreting events and his opinions are measured by a reputable compapny. Otherwise, the media has been in the tank for many years and not worthy of my time. Of course Art Harris is the real ‘king” of investigative reporting. All the posters on this site do excellent work with their investigations and have insightful opinions and “feelings” on the Anna and Howard issue. I don’t post often, because you all do it for me. So Thanks ya all.
Dear Jane,
You know me by now (no doubt), as do all of your faithful readers and those that follow the tribute site and ArtHarris.com.
Though I’ve spent countless hours, reading and responding, arguing, joking, conjuring, and cajoling…I know about as much now as I did months ago.
This all started when I observed the media (both the internet and the television), and those whom I once admired, made complete fools out of themselves in the midst of a masquerade.
They made me, and all of their public viewers, idiots for the sake of ratings…they used us and betrayed us.
I was angry, and I still am, I fell right into their trap and trickery.
We were ambushed, bamboozled…hoodwinked and bedazzled.
At least ‘they’ made themselves so obvious; we should all know the truth by now.
Be very careful of what and whom you believe.
Remember, it’s all about ratings.
Jane I find it offensive that you of all people would ridicule Greta, Geraldo and who ever else is covering any of the ANS saga.
After all you are the one who is covering it all too. And you are the one who wrote about Howard as if he deserves respect and acknowledgement in some way. (NOT in My Opinion) You are the one who took information from Bonnie who obviously would have a slanted view on any of this, and reported it as if it was fact. LOL
I think with this article; at this point it is hard to take your opinions into consideration.
Ahava - First of all, Howard is a human being and does deserve respect and acknowledgment. Second, I don’t know where you got your information, but the only “information” I got from Bonnie for any of my articles was an interview regarding the Hogan book, and confirmation that HKS was not planning one of his own. Third, you needn’t take my opinions into consideration at all if you find them disagreeable - but if you’re going to disagree, I’d hope you’d do so with some effort of thought and the right facts. Thanks - Jane
ahava,hummm could have anb n in there to spell—- on no it could’nt be,orcould it??
# 28, GO BACK TO TMZ WERE YOU BELONG AND HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY. I KNOW YOU WILL……BASHING EVERY ONE THAT DOESN’T AGREE WITH YOU. REGARDS, J
#31, I’ve never been at TMZ…lol
Ahava,
I’ve gotta laugh, and shake my head.
Jane in no way was offensive, she did not ridicule, in fact she said Greta ‘had’ a keen mind, Nancy was a passionate hero for the ’cause,’ and well we all know Geraldo has worked hard at his ‘game.’
Howard did not deserve, in fact no one deserves, to be ‘murdered by the media.’
I think your comment is a joke. LOL AHAHA!!!
‘Have No Fear…Underdog Is Here’…this is a new movie, right, coming to theatres in yur neighborhood soon. LOL
Jane:
Great article.. Great series of articles. Your talent is amazing!
I did not think the media coverage was terrible, although I thought some of the reporters were not as informed of the FACTS as some of us bloggers.
Nancy Grace was usually about a week behind the events and then she blathered on, misstated and confused.
Greta Van Susteren was VERY fair, in my view. Her interview with Larry this week will be good, as he will tell that he and Howard are practically best friends. I HOPE so, anyway, because I have fervently wished they could unite for Dannielynn.
Larry King said that he believed Larry but not Howard regarding the paternity. He likes Larry and I look forward to the interview on Tuesday. I know that Howrd will eventually be telling his side and then people will understand him.
I like happy endings.
Ahava…….. You say that you find it offensive that Jane has written about Howard “as if he deserves respect and acknowledgement in some way”. Based on FACTS why do you feel that Howard does not deserve respect in some way? And please - not what you heard Greta, Nancy, Geraldo and others like them reported. Please - not what was said by Ford Shelly, Ben Thompson, The PI, Virgie and others like them had to say (or Larry for that matter). Maybe his choices were not always the best but if that is true, can’t you see that maybe they were choices he made following the love and kindness in his heart and his desire to protect those he loved. I think people who are blessed with a kind, loving heart understands Howard better than anyone else who ever could.
Oh……. I wanted to say to FRAN CA - I enjoyed your post. I also check the Drudge Report daily and depend on Rush for his views when I am especially confused!!! I’m especially thankful for the “fair and balanced” reporting from Art Harris, Jane and QV.
Jane, I wish the world could read your account of the ANS mystery. But instead, the world is left with the images put before them by the likes of GVS, GR, NG and the rest of the biased media. Life is so unfair sometimes.
Thank you, Jane.
Ahava, I do believe that HKS deserves respect. Why not? C’mon, tell us. You seem to know it all.
And the next time, finish your name. All you “insiders” think you know it all. You don’t know shit! Have you had a conversation with Stern? I don’t care what his sister has to say. I care what HE has to say.
I’m sorry this had to turn ugly on your site, Jane. My apology to you but I’m sick of some people who have diarrhea of the mouth. And what comes out of their mouth really stinks!
#28 YOU ARE THE OFFENSIVE ONE!!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!
AND GO BACK TO YOUR OTHER BLOGS FLAMING PEOPLE!!
#30 AGREE
Anna’s celebrity was of the tabloid variety. Her career and the life she led was flamboyant and frequently tawdry by choice. The appearances she made with slurred speech combined with her ditzy blond personna made her easy fodder for comedians and the media in general. She never seemed to try for an image of “respected member of the community” as in the type that supports social causes or takes stands on issues. The news always treated her accordingly. Anna reveled in the limelight of the world she inhabited and I never had the impression she yearned to be taken seriously, which made her that much more likeable to so many. When Daniel died I think the media was very sensitive to a grieving mother and NOBODY made disparaging remarks about her. When she died and her entourage was seen by many as largely asleep at the wheel from some of the judgement calls made in her last days, the coverage reverted to the free-wheeling caliber Anna and her circle would have received before all this happened. Like it or not, Anna’s marriage to Marshall was never treated or perceived as a union worthy of reverent coverage, the same with the Marshall estate lawsuit. Her circle was also looked down upon by the media as the usual sycophants and some media members did get carried away with the piling on, free-for-all coverage of Howard in particular. He didn’t help himself by making the false paternity claim and the far-fetched (to most) claim that he and Anna were a couple.The media loves to take on someone they think is lying and those comments registered in the same way as OJ’s proclamation to keep searching for the real killer. The tabloid media acted as it always does, shoot first and ask questions later. The mainstream media took editorial license with a tabloid figure and lowered their bar to the level of tabloid coverage. It was never a story that deserved the volume of coverage it was given or even that we continue to give it. She was a fascinating personality whose life intrigued us, but in the big picture I have far more criticism for the news media in its failure to inform us of what has happened to our country. I even wonder if it’s by design that our attention is distracted for lengthy periods of time with sensational stories such as this, thus absolving themselves for their negligence in reporting and investigating real news.
Don’t you get it, #28 is part of the Stern Media machine?
For some reason they have decided to turn on this writer who was there for them when everyone else turned their backs on him.
For this former Stern supporter, I have not forgotten
I do not flame anyone on any other blogg. I simply find it harsh for Jane to call the cattle black, YES many reporters report on the ANS saga, why is Jane flaming them? SHE IS.
For those of you that wanted to know. Why I do not find HKS deserving Respect.
#1 Attorney’s are held to a higher standard and expectation of abiding the law.
HKS was Anna’s enabler. Would she have done drugs without him most likely so.
Does that mean that if I see someone ready to jump off the roof I should just let them?
He knew he was not DL’s father he never could verbally say biological father.
He helped Anna run to the Bahamas. A lawyer works for 12,000.00 a year? I do not know of any other in this country that would do that. He held DL hostage, shall we go on? We really do not need to.
Lawyers do not sleep with clients, she was NOT his relationship, Larry was it for 2 ½ years and others were there too. Larry made it pretty clear in the Florida hearing. “To my knowledge there is only one way to make a babyâ€.
Did Anna and Howard have a relationship Sure but you all have relationships with your siblings too. Not all relationships are considered equal.
Well, maybe we have to wait until Jane has concluded her work
You must have not read her comments on the previous page to others with the same questions
All this article does is shows what has become of our media, it is truthful
I watched Gretal personally and when she started this report on HKS I had to stop watching her, she lost credibility with me. Nancy, well she was ridiculous.
Did you listen to the Ford Shelly spin?
PS: I am sorry guys I do not follow one web site or one reporter. I do listen to it all. I do like Greta, And Art, and some of the other Fair Reporters.
I do not feel that JANE should flame them, and in this article she has.
Just because there is a group of followers that like her writing does not mean it is OK to flame Greta, or Art etc….If some can’t edit the fact that Bonnie being the source can not make any HKS information “Fair and Balanced”.
Where are you getting your information?
Did you read this article or scan it
It is a very good look at what is happening to our media and is not bias
Ahava,
You say that you do not know of any other lawyer in this country who would work for $12,000. What about the Innocence Project? How much do Barry Scheck, and the other attorneys working on this project, earn?
well, hedoes make money elsewhere and can afford to work for nothing not to mention the publicity it gives him
oh, that ques. was not even for me, just putting my 2 cents in
Maryst,
I might add to your comment “…….not to mention the publicity (and satisfaction) it gives him”.
#45 I did not say that there are no charity workers.
I know there are many charity workers in our Country Thank God.
If you want to revere Howard be my guest.
I was referring to the fact that the very least an attorney makes is actually $35,000.00 and they just came out of school or they are not very good.
I have a friend who works at getting people jobs and I am very clear when
I say 12,000. is not a lawyers salary.
#41. Ford Shelley publicly admitted that it was he and G. Ben Thompson that not only came up with the idea to move ANS to the Bahamas because of their laws, but they also provided a house for Anna Nicole to live in. Stern traveled there later.
I also can tell you that Jane does not base her articles on “inside information” obtained from Bonnie Stern.
#43 &44 I will go back and read it. Maybe you are right.
Ahava, I responded to you in #29.
I do not believe I am “bashing” NG, GVS, or GR. I am sharing my view of what I saw on the programs, which were slanted beyond belief and did, in fact, allege murder (as well as other false “wrongdoings”) many times over.
Regardless of what a person may believe about Howard, no one deserves to be falsely accused of a heinous crime for weeks on end in front of millions of people.
Ahava,
Jane is not biased. She does not get her information from Bonnie. She tells it like it is and does it so well.
We have all seen how NG, GVS and G have all been skewing the truth and having the most unscrupulous “guests” on their shows concerning the Anna Nicole story. They have lost all credibility with those of us who can see through their shenanigans. We are all happy to have a couple of places to go where we can read the truth. The truth should prevail, but alas, that doesn’t seem to be the case elsewhere.
And Cara: “diarrhea of the mouth”, that’s a good one lol
Ahava, thank you for responding and giving this article the respect it deserves. This has been going on in the media before HKS, we tried and convicted parents of murder of the child with out any evidence. Bill Reilly said Shawn Hornbeck enjoyed his captivity…what our media is doing to our society should alarm all of us.
Hi Maryst! Yes, it has gone on before, but have you ever seen a murder charge pinned on someone to the extent it was pinned on HKS, and for the length of time? Even after the investigation concluded, and he was cleared, HKS continued to be treated as a murder suspect by many programs . . . Like you, I found it alarming. - Jane
Jane,
I admire the way you write with honor, integrity, and grace.
You are a class act!!!
Jane, The Ramsey’s come to mind
Also forgot to mention Nancy Grace and the Duke Case, she was relentless in her conviction of those boys as many other talking heads
What does it say, on TV you can rely on Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert to get any truth, they do it with comedy they are laughing at the media
Thank you, AP and Joni.
Maryst, you’re right, The Ramsays went through this for quite a long time. I don’t think the Duke case approaches the same level, but still the same concept. Richard Jewell, too. Not quite the 24 hour a day coverage, but nonetheless painful.
DEAR JANE I just found your reply, Thank you and.
No I do not agree that anyone should have said the word “Murderer” That was wrong and I am glad Howard is suing O’Quinn for that vary fact.
In the USA one is innocent until proven guilty. I don’t think Howard murdered anyone anyway. Does that mean he is ethical? My opinion is - not from what we do know about him.
But as far as the Media goes: I can never make excuses for the word “Murder†but this is what the world did see: Two dead under the age of 40 (relatively young people) and HKS the common denominator, the enabler. Then the world saw them running to another Country, withholding paternity from Larry. DID Howard look bad? You bet, did I think he killed someone, I did not, did I think he was a greedy man looking out for himself YES I did and so did the entire world.
The reporters are people too, they are not lawyers and yet we hold them to a higher court.
As things become a little clearer the media reports it in a new light. (Some do spin) But that is not to say that most of them spin or are bad, we all saw the same thing. Did anyone believe Bonnie? not for one moment, her alliance is to her brother. But Greta and Art are fair reporters in my opinion. in fact Greta was too soft on Virgie and did not ask the hard questions.
Someone said that Ben/Ford helped Anna to get to the Bahamas, yes they did. HKS is a lawyer and is held to a higher court. He is the one who ran with her to avoid being on the right side of the law. He is also the one who said he is staying in the Bahamas with Anna and Daniel (both dead) most likely because returning to face the LAW may be too painful. But eventually he will have to.
ALSO: One of your posters did recommend that I read your previous entry I think they are referring to story #6 which I intend to do. I try to be fair, while the media is loving the ANS saga, they are not making this stuff up…Now it has relaxed a bit, So I am sure we will hear from Greta again on Monday and from LKL on Tuesday. I do not think you will see any spin or miss information.
Ahava — Nancy Grace, Greta Van Susteren, AND Geraldo Rivera are attorneys. All have accused HKS of wrongdoing without any proof. If you doubt this, read the transcripts, especially the early ones. Greta even allowed Anna’s bio-father on her show to level the charge — not once mentioning that the man was a convicted child molester who had not seen his own daughter in over 10 years. Talk about context.
Where’s your proof that HKS said that about a return to the States? He never did. Where’s your proof he went to the Bahamas to avoid the law? There is none. Howard was not a wanted man. Anna went to the Bahamas first, and was there for quite some time alone before Howard joined her. Where’s your proof that he did not know or believe DL was his? You can speculate — I can — the world can, but unless you knew them personally, you cannot exclude the possibility that they did, indeed, have a physical relationship. They said they did. Others in their entourage say they did. You can believe that, or not, but I think I’ll believe those — including Kim W. and Moe B. — who were close to the couple.
This article wasn’t about the moral fiber or goodness of HKS. It was about the merger of tabloids and TV — and the power to destroy a man through fasle accusations. Some people may find cause to dislike or devalue Stern, but that does not mean that all punches at him are equally fair.
Ahava, read some of the post and her comments, she states she will be addressing some of what the poster questioned
Thanks, Maryst, and yes. . .coming soon, in the last article. Thanks for reminding me to get back to WP and off the internet! LOL.
Were tabloid editors brought in for interviews by Court TV, CNN or Fox during the Ramsey case and the Richard Jewell case? I don’t recall.
Jane….I ditto what everyone said and love you and QV dearly….I enjoy everything you write. Keep up the great work.
A.P., I don’t think so…this is the first time I recall them using them because I was so floored by it I am pretty sure I would have remembered.
Geroldo had a mock trail during the Ramsey case and convicted them
Maryst,
Thanks for replying. The Ramsey case was especially tragic since Patsy was never vindicated before her death.
I know
Jane,
I commend you and QV for your time and for being open minded .
I am sure you are both able to speak on your own behalfs , but allow me for a second to speak in support of what you do. I don’t think you nor QV owe anyone at anytime an explanation as to your view points.I am pretty sure neither of you are push overs either. You have written your perception of the issues surrounding the unfair and biased accusations thrown at Howard. I see it , I heard and I support Howard K Stern fully and I say it with bold faced determination. This was slated to try to incriminate him from the start. THEY NEVER CARED TO KNOW WHO HE IS and they still are so convinced that he was never intimate with Anna. How they know that I’m not sure. The probability to me is equal with regards to whether he was or wasn’t intimate. I chose to think he was and see no reason to see otherwise as there were circumstances that made the possibility of intimacy more possible than not at all.
DEAR FREIDA, # 28 HAS CHANGED SINCE THIS AM… PLEASE FORGIVE… IT HAS NOW CHANGED TO # 29, I FELT THE LADY NAMED AHAVA WAS BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO JANE. AFTER ALL, THIS IS HER WEB PAGE AND WE ARE VISITORS. SHE HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY RESEARCHING LOTS OF INFORMATION. JANE HAS BEEN UNDER ATTACK BEFORE AND I SIMPLY DO NOT LIKE IT.. I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN… IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE MUSIC, CHANGE THE CHANNEL. SOME PEOPLE DISTORT THE FACTS MORE FROM AN EMOTIONAL PLACE , RATHER THAN FROM A RESPECTED WRITERS HONEST FACTS. FREIDA I HOPE I AM FORGIVEN. REGARDS, J
Jane: You are right that NG GVS Ann GR are attorneys. And their reports in the beginning did lean on looking at HKS with much suspicion and a bit of a pointing of fingers. My last post does explain what the entire world had seen and as a result that would explain that.
Your second Paragraph: Let me clarify what I meant to say. HKS said it on TV when Larry was about to Leave the Bahamas with his baby that he will stay in the Bahamas with Anna and Daniel (who are dead); There is reason to believe that he is not ready to face the USA Legal System because he did not respect his license to practice law. and IMHO I am sure he is not planning to stay so that he can talk to the dead. He made his bed; and many of the hearings are due to the things they did together>(non of which are right).
Anna did go to the Bahamas first- he still knows right from wrong, He knew DL was not his and Larry so far has been very consistent and honest. LB’s words in the Fla. Court “There is only one way to make a baby†but it was his expressions that were worth their weight in gold. When Opri asked HKS if he is the “BIOLOGICAL FATHER†HKS squirmed and never once says yes under oath. I don’t think he thought for one second that he is the father.
NOW what Kim or Moe have to say –those who can’t tell the same story twice and are inconsistent can not hold water next to someone who has been consistent.
Last but not least; an article about the media separated from this case YOU ARE RIGHT the Media can help or destroy a person. It is good that Lin Wood stepped in this was going out of balance, but in your words you say;
“By way of his education, sobriety, and steady place in the family, Stern was assumed to have had the means and the power to exorcise Anna Nicole’s demons – to keep her safe not only from lawsuits, but from personal tragedy, the excesses of physicians, and her own negligence. Somehow, he was supposed to be a chemist, aware of drug interactions. A warden, a counselor, a controller, a psychic, and a healer. Somehow, the media told us, he should have known where all this was heading – he should have prevented it.â€
Many people meet up with someone who is impaired and they make a choice to stay within “Do the right thing†I do not think that enabling, or baby hostage,or as an attorney permitting drugs in his name and yes we can go on but it does not fall under “Ethicalâ€, or professional behavior. So yes the Media is out of balance but I’d rather hear it all then to assume for one moment that HKS is a stand up guy. He is not.
I give you this Ahava, you are tenacious. Unconvincing, but tenacious. And certainly entitled to your own opinions. I simply don’t find your beliefs logical. - Jane
Joren Van der Sloot was also cleared yet still treated as a criminal by the media. He, like HKS, had some damning circumstantial evidence feeding the speculation (some created by their own behavior).
Ironically it was Greta’s interview with Joren that opened a lot of minds to question the popular belief that he killed Natalie.
I happen to think Greta has a fantastic legal mind and I never personally heard her accuse Howard of murder, although I think it was obvious that her suspicions were high that there was something un-kosher about the 2 deaths. I think 95% of the country did as well. She definitely did give Hogan a disproportionate amount of air-time based on his non-relationship with Anna, but I also don’t think she was obliged to bring up his past criminal record when it had nothing to do with the subject at hand.
It’s context, Alison, and credibility. If someone who is in a person’s immediate life accuses someone else in their life of murder, then it’s possible they have a real basis for their beliefs. If that same person is a relatively “good citizen” that only adds to their credibility. Hogan was not in Anna’s life, and barely knew her. He had never even spoken with Stern. His record speaks to his character even further. And why did “95%” of the country think Stern was guilty of something? To say that had nothing to do with the media’s portrayal of events would be extremely naive — they carried many stories to the public, most of which were later shown to be false. - Jane
Your opinion Ahava,
You speak in a matter of fact tone. What makes Larry more credible than Howard? Nothing ! Had he been credible he would not be in the predicament that he is in now. Look at his friends, FS, GBT, use to be Debra Opri, used to be Vergie. Anna even denied the closeness of their “so-called relationship”. She has NEVER denied the friendship, closeness and trust between her and Howard. The matter of intimacy was no ones business to begin with.
Howard has and been a steady figure in Anna’s life and no one denies that and for more than a decade. What makes anyones story more credible than Howard’s .He was ridiculed and all attempts were made to discredit him and yet he still remains poised and honorable, YES in my eyes and others, then and now. Everyone else for that matter has proved what they really are behind the guarded curtains and all the veils are now coming off. We shall see.
Lee, I particularly agree with your last two sentences. Thank you for your post. - Jane
Hogan was asked by Greta what he thought and he gave an honest answer. He didn’t flatly say, “Howard Stern murdered my daughter and her son”. Yes, his answer implied that was his belief, but what was he supposed to do, lie? Blame Greta for asking the question. What does his credibility factor have to do with his right to give a personal opinion on a personal matter when asked to do so by the person who requested the interview. I doubt he called Greta to go public, I’m sure he was contacted by Fox. His belief was also that of the majority of people at that time. If the media contributed to that fact, it wasn’t all because of wild guesses being thrown around. Even many of the facts that withstood scrutiny could easily have pointed to foulplay.
I really didn’t start this thread to continuously argue, but it’s a topic I feel strongly about. I will blame Greta not for asking the question — and here’s the part people really do not seem to get — but because it was asked and aired to millions of people in the public, and the accuser’s credibility was not even questioned. . .which has EVERYTHING to do the fact that HKS was continuously and brutally accused in the press — which is where a great number of people in the public got their misinformed opinions. This will be my last defense of this subject. Entrenched views are rarely swayed by argument. - Jane
Ahava:
Why are you wasting your time trying to sway people who came to this site for the sole purpose of getting away from the hate-filled people who bash Howard instead of bashing the people in their own lives who are making THEM miserable? It will not work.
Attorneys can make a lot of money, indeed. Look at O’Quinn! If I had to choose, I would definitely choose a kind, non-greedy person over a nasty, greedy one.
Ahava:
Another matter that really upsets me is the way people are so sure Howard and Anna never slept together as if it were anybody’s business.
Lead by example, Ahava. Please enlighten all the misguided people but begin by telling us about yourself. With whom have you slept? Where? When? Why? As a blogger, you are now a public figure and we are waiting for the information we have the right to know.
All CNN cares about with Nancy Grace are the ratings. If she didn’t pull the ratings, she’d be long gone. People like Ahava still watch her for all her idiocy, so she’ll keep her job for a while.
Jane, Once again, you are not only an awesome writer, but on target insofar as poking holes of “jibberish and clouded thinking” i.e. Ahava #29 and the numerous posts that were made by Ahava with no supporting evidence; and which you so stragetically and clearly rebutted with evidence and facts. Unfortunately, some posters have a mindset and are not open to even consider facts. Greta and Dis-Grace, and Horri-aldo are very notorious for this type of reporting and they influence many in the public. They are blessed with staff to investigate stories, but they pick, twist, and choose the “juicy -dirt for ratings” to feed the blood thirsty public. I agree with you Jane that Greta knew about Hogan’s credibility (criminal past), yet she deliberately phrases her questiona to Hogan to cast Stern in a bad light. Hogan was probably primed and coached as to his expected reply because he no doubt told Virgie and the Stern bashers he was to get 5 minutes of fame with Greta. Allison #72 and #74, Greta DOES have an obligation to let us know that Hogan has questionable character, and is casting an opinion on Stern and doesn’t even know him personally and for that matter any of the facts. Greta needs to learn that the public deserves honest reporting. Greta is not believable. AND didn’t the coroner issue his opinion/medical report that there was NO EVIDENCE as to FOUL PLAY? Unfortunately, we the public can’t challenge Geta, and they know they don’t have to do a retraction. I just let Fox News advertisers of Greedy-Greta/s show know that I will not buy their products and ask friends not to patronize them as well. There is always another comparable product available. Anne #35, Yes, Yes, Rush is a good teacher –”always question, evaluate the sources, and get the facts only”. You do a great job with posts. I appreciate you.
Jane thanks for shooting holes in some mis-informationon — and giving us real facts to ponder. The information you present is verifible, and that is very comforting.
Now let’s go see what Art Harris has posted. Some interesting stuff is there!
Jane,
Greta Van Susteren has an interview with Larry Birkhead (accompanied by our precious Dannielynn) which is scheduled for Monday. It will be interesting to see whether she mentions the fact that his former attorney, Debra Opri, has accused him of having a “filthy apartment etc., etc.” according to a Child Services Worker, who was broght in, to inspect his one-bedroom apartment, in preparation of bringing Dannielynn there. Opri states that she informed him that he would “…have to clean up his act” and, also, that she spent $3,600 to hire a cleaning crew to clean up his place. Also, according to Opri, Larry B had a mystery room mate (Byron) living in his apartment who, Larry promised to give him the boot. ( I wonder what happened to the Attorney-Client privelege? )
Since Greta is not bashful when it comes to asking personal, irrelevant questions, I suppose it depends on whether Greta likes Larry B or not , as to what questions she will ask. It was so obvious that she disliked Howard K. Stern so much - to the point of obsession and, encouraged her many guests to state, that he was a murderer, over and over again. Speaking of one of these guests who, incidentally, was brought back numerous times to state this, was John O’Quinn. The latest word on him is, that he may have to pay his former breast-implant clients, over half a million dollars for expenses (and fees) which were improperly deducted from settlements he won for them. He may be one of the richest attorneys in the country but, apparantly, not the most honest..
Fran:
Art Harris’ article on Opri is an eye-opener regarding Larry. Even though Opri is hardly a likable person, I choose to believe all she said about Larry and his lifestyle. Opri should be held responsible for deceiving the court about Larry’s ability to care for Dannielynn. She claims Larry was “high maintenance” and she paid over $3,000.00 to have his place cleaned up, there was also a “roomate” named Byron. Once all the hoopla dies down, no one will care about Dannielynn and that is when Larry will get back to his disgusting lifestyle. I hope that in a few years there will not be an article about something horrible concerning Dannielynn.
Hey Jane,
Showin some love! Keep up the awesome work!
As an afterthought, I hope that Debra Opri’s accusations and innuendos against Larry B , are all lies, although I am not a LB fan, since this will give fodder for Virgie Arthur’s attorneys (on her behalf ) to gain custody of Dannielynn. Personally, I think the most loving home, with the most loving family, would be with Howard. I can dream can’t I? At least he wouldn’t be parading her around from show to show. If custody is given to her biological father, I would hope he would change his ways and not flaunt Dannielynn on TV shows as he plans to do on GVS’s show. He will probably make the rounds, Nancy Grace, Larry King, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Geraldo Rivera and on and on. He is certainly one who enjoys the limelight.
Shall we urge this APB to Greta the Spinner: — Greta, Greta, calling John Gin O’Quinn STAT. Greta, perhaps you can give him your entire hour and use your expert lawyer skills to interrograte him on his unethical skills in ripping off his clients to the tune of millions. Now how are you going to twist and spin the news on Jonny Boy the Thief Greta? Gin O’Quinn was licking his chops trying to get his mits on the Anna-Marshall estate.
#80 Isabel, For me, if Art, Jane or QV report it, it is always verifible and trusted reporting. So with that in mind, Opri is out for blood because her reputation is at stake and since LB sued her for fraud etc. etc., he has opened himself to nullify the attorney client privilege. She better be accurate about it if she is putting it out there. It is my understanding that the courts in the Bahamas have not issued an official order granting LB full custody of DL. Only that LB can take DL to U.S. Therefore I would think that Howard is still listed as DL’s father. The courts in U.S. and the Bahamas don’t have to award a child to the natural parent in a child custody battle, but will do an investigation thru Social Services and deem by recommendation to the court the most suitable, safe and nurturing environment for the child. I would also think that LB has a real battle on his hand if Opri pushes his questionable character and living environment for DL.
I personally know of a infant (child now 5) who was placed in foster care, and at one month the grandparents took custody thru Social Services (mother was in drug rehab hospial and father had similar problems) and had him for 1 year which is the amount of time social services recommended for grandparents custody. When he was 1 year oln, they feared for the boy to then go to natural mother - who said she did not want him when he was born. It was recommended that the grandparents petition social services for legal custody although the grandparents were of the age of 78 and 65. They petitioned as primary caregivers and their daughter and husband are secondary caregivers. At 2 1/2 years old the boy was awarded to the primary and secondary caregivers. My dear little friend, Mikey, is thriving because we all love him so much. That is what I have had in mind for DL all along, maybe and somehow God will intervene and steer this ship to the right port - into Howard loving arms. This can only be done through social services. I rememvber in April, that social services in the Bahamas was doing a study on all concerned, LB - Virgie and Howard. So pray that God puts down his gavel and says enough is enough for this dear child and places her with Howard. And Isabel, you are right, how will the courts deal with Opri’s deception of claiming LB was this upright character to care for DL and have her live in a safe enviironment. Now we know why LB took her to KY - not to his parents home, but an affluent home of a friend. Please LB, don’t give DL a gypsy life. Give her stabililty and a constant safe-loving environment. We can only PRAY, watch and observe.
If I may put my 2 cents in about HKS being the father and why so many ppl do not believe he ever thought he was the dad. I am aware what Kimmie and Moe state.
I think the reason ppl find it unbelievable is due to what Anna said for years and the story about the sexual relationship did not become part of their story until after the baby was born. Anna told ET Larry was delusional. IMO when ppl start telling lies then others do not believe what you say even if you are telling the truth.
Wow Jane,
Love the new ‘digs.’
Anyway, you all know I’m a dreamer…and I had a dream last night that Anna and Daniel were alive and well in Dubai.
It was a beautiful dream.
Hi Frieda, there will be a couple of new themes tried on until the final new one is ready, hopefully next week. A fresh start all the way around. - Jane
HI JANE, YESTERDAY I RESPONDED TO # 28 AND LATER YESTERDAY IT WAS CHANGED TO #29. MY RESPONSE WAS #30 AND LATER YESTERDAY IT WAS CHANGED TO # 31. THE PERSON I RESPONDED TO WAS AHAVA. I AM CLEARING THIS UP BECAUSE IT APPEARED I WAS TALKING TO FREIDA…I WASN’T. REGARDS,J
Jimi, I noticed too the numbers change, I use names when responding…hope that helps.
I think it has to do with her auto system and who is approved automatically and some she has to put in manually, I think that is the way Jane explained it prior. Jane said if it is your first time posting then after you go auto, please correct me if I am wrong
THANK YOU MARYST FOR THE INFO. I WILL TRY TO BE MORE CAREFUL. J
Jimi, I was reading your response, you must have to grow a thick skin to be a writer
Thank you Fran and Freida for your private msgs. regarding the newer design. Fran, I agree with you about white space, and Freida I’m going to try for something more artistic. Web design and wordpress in particular isn’t my forte, and the available templates all lack something. . .but I’ll keep at it until I find something user-friendly and appropriate for the site. Thank you!
Jane, I like this format but totally understand you wanting to try new things, makes it fun
Fun is the first part of functional, Maryst. I want something that will work with literary pieces and columns both. I haven’t found that yet. There’s some nice templates out there, but each has its glitches and drawbacks, and I’m not all that fond of editing CSS — or good at it. You guys will probably see a few different “skins” this week, and your comments are welcome through email or here.
I know, I have the same problem with my web page
Jane, regarding the postings of Ahava all I can think of is something my father used to say: “A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still”.
You are a truly gifted researcher and writer. When all is said and done, I seek you out and listen to what you say, because I know I can trust you. The icing on the cake is that I enjoy how you put it all together. You take the mundane and in a creative manner you bring it to life. You use words to bring understanding and truth in the midst of confusion.
Often, when someone reads an article, they bring their own baggage to the story. This baggage can change the meaning completely and sometimes it even distorts it. If someone is open minded, they will leave their own baggage at the door and form their opinions on the content alone. You do not have to explain yourself, ever, because your writing stands on it’s own merit.
You are not only very gifted, you are also a woman of integrity.
I look forward to the next post, to the next story. dani
Jane:
I came across a very nice video on Anna. Please click on the address below and I hope it works.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v272652QtbqgbmS
….and another
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v240373Z6rhNtxt
danigirl, so true, I had to acknowledge I was bringing my own life into some of this story but feel I have learned thru it
#84, Some people don’t put their private lives out there. Even though Anna was a star, per say, Howard wasn’t. He was her attorney. So why would they put the intimate details of their relationship out there. I’ll say this and I’ll leave it alone. If people think that Anna and Howard were together all those years and nothing happened romantically and sexually, they are crazy. It’s almost unrealistic. I don’t think Howard is gay. So, I’m sure the bells were tolling.
Jane, This is the first time I am posting on your site. I come here to read your articles every day first thing along with Art Harris. I am one who wants to hear the truth about this case and find your articles enlightening.
Nancy Grace, what can I say other than she goes off the wall with her spin. I can say I know more than she does. lol
Greta I used to admire her questions and tactics, but when she had the dad on, well others said it very well, he knew nothing and was waste of airtime. What happened to her? I will still look forward to watching her tonight with Larry as I am curious see Larry and what will be asked and said.
I never did watch Geraldo.
I would like to address one comment if I may;
Fran CA said: “AND didn’t the coroner issue his opinion/medical report that there was NO EVIDENCE as to FOUL PLAY? “
Yes he did. I agree with Fran CA, but in the same breath the coroner, Dr. Perper stated on the air had Anna been taken to the hospital her life could have been saved. Why is this truth being left out? I’m not pointing the finger at any one person, as there was a Doctor, a paramedic/body guard and nurse by Anna’s side as well. Anyway, I needed to add my 2 cents.
Thank You Jane, I look forward to your next article.
Frieda;
Read your post from Saturday#21,#22 you are a real treat.
Ahava, if you are still reading; the reason I was relieved to find Jane and QV is the interaction of host and blogger. I was so upset the way people in the media were using speculation and condemnation, without real investigation,I have heard people tell others to go back to the Howard lovers site. For me that had an ominous ring. Anyone can post on here if they conduct themselves in a respectable manner. To me when this started I was appalled by the way ANS and HKS were being treated. The fact that it was them was more coincidence than any thing else. It was no way for any human being to be treated. When I began my own research and was able to distinguish between fact and fiction, that is when ANS and HKS became more 3 dimensional. When you do research at reliable spots and keep your mind open, you may actually change your mind about what you believe, more than once. As more information is made available about all involved I don’t automatically,jump to conclusions. I wait for what I believe is something reliable and then I decide what I believe. Because I have never met anyone involved in person, I may keep an open mind for awhile. But i believe they all deserve respect as every human does. I don’t think anyone is going to call me liar and they are going to get me someday Sometimes there are discussions and Jane keeps us in line, but does not take away our freedom to decide. SORRY I DO RAMBLE!
Ahava;
Jane is stating what happened in the media. The difference, Jane is stating the obvious, the media is sensationalizing, not checking their facts. HKS was paid 12,000.00 for being on ANS reality show. When he was doing work for the Marshall estate, no settlement, no paycheck. When Anna delivered Dannielynn, the baby was checked and there were drugs in her system, although some believe HKS paid someone to report that. Anna was coming off of whatever her drug was. She was on liquid methadone, because they could use smaller amounts. Her autopsy report said she hadn’t had methadone for at least a week. The medication she was on may have been for any withdrawal symptoms. HKS controlled her medication, not so he could poison her, but so he could keep track of the amounts. He put the medication doses in small cups, to make it easier. Don’t any one ask where I got this because I didn’t take notes. The will is in probate in CA. The amounts of cash and real property was to estimate for the fees. The will is going to probate in the Bahama’s because that was her residence when she died. Most of her assets had been moved there.
Toni;
You are asking the same questions, I would like answered, not because I think she was murdered, but because I haven”t been able to come up with something that sounds right. At the moment to many other things have my attention. It will take me forever to get that straight in my mind.First I heard she was on soiled sheets, then I heard she was on clean sheets. Things like that can make a difference.
Ahava #102;
Sorry, when Dannielynn was born she was checked for drugs and there was none in her system.
First of all I love your website Jane, but if anyone every watched the ANS show on tv they would see there were somthing there between ANS and HKS. I also watched an interview were ANS stated she was in love with HKS for years but HE would not go further with things because he was her lawyer. The interview was ET tonight. But you can guarantee that it did eventually happen. About Dannielynn, I can guarantee That Howard will make sure she gets every thing she needs and that she is taken good care of. He will pass the love he felt for Anna on to DL. And I hope Lin Wood takes all the tabloids and TV shows that accused him of murder to the cleaners.