Comments on: On Meanings, Tyrannies, Women & Monsters http://janedevin.com/2008/09/12/realism/ Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:27:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jane Devin http://janedevin.com/2008/09/12/realism/comment-page-1/#comment-9710 Jane Devin Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:02:29 +0000 http://janedevin.com/?p=1099#comment-9710 MaryBeth, I wish McCain would sink, and I hope you're right about the debate. My favorite site to check the stats is this one: http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm It shows results from several places -- and today they're very close -- too close for comfort! The therapist first tried to defend her theory, but then admitted it wasn't all that defensible. I think my new "getting to know you" question will be "Have you read the Secret? What did you think?" :-) ---- Kate, That is so true. There's a lot of self-berating in magical thinking, and it IS depressing! --- Beautifully put, Melissa! --- Ann, your question about the press is one I have been most concerned with in the Bush years. Everything is opinion and commentary now, outside of a few die-hard publications. The other thing is the manipulation of info by Bush, e.g., denying reporters access. How can we know the truth when it's hidden? ---- Off to work with me. Wish it was writing a column! New article up tomorrow! MaryBeth,

I wish McCain would sink, and I hope you’re right about the debate. My favorite site to check the stats is this one:

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

It shows results from several places — and today they’re very close — too close for comfort!

The therapist first tried to defend her theory, but then admitted it wasn’t all that defensible. I think my new “getting to know you” question will be “Have you read the Secret? What did you think?” :-)

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Kate,

That is so true. There’s a lot of self-berating in magical thinking, and it IS depressing!

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Beautifully put, Melissa!

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Ann, your question about the press is one I have been most concerned with in the Bush years. Everything is opinion and commentary now, outside of a few die-hard publications. The other thing is the manipulation of info by Bush, e.g., denying reporters access. How can we know the truth when it’s hidden?

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Off to work with me. Wish it was writing a column! New article up tomorrow!

]]> By: MaryBeth http://janedevin.com/2008/09/12/realism/comment-page-1/#comment-9709 MaryBeth Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:07:42 +0000 http://janedevin.com/?p=1099#comment-9709 Dear Jane, Here is the recent pole info- not a secret,with the exception of the conservative owned media Mcain is sinking faster then the titanic, and I have much faith that the debate on the 26th, will be the much needed reality check for many who are still mesmerized by the "perfect happy " soccer mom. How come your writing is not in a magazine or a weekly column?? oh- I would add onto your general theme of no "not happy allowed"- that no feelings the veer from what is "acceptable" allowed. Hey what was your therapists response to your logical follow through on deranged gunman shooting her or her daughter?? Did The Secret have an answer for that???? Dear Jane,
Here is the recent pole info- not a secret,with the exception of the conservative owned media
Mcain is sinking faster then the titanic, and I have much faith that the debate on the 26th, will be the much needed reality check for many who are still mesmerized by the “perfect happy ” soccer mom.
How come your writing is not in a magazine or a weekly column??
oh- I would add onto your general theme of no “not happy allowed”- that no feelings the veer from what is “acceptable” allowed.
Hey what was your therapists response to your logical follow through on deranged gunman shooting her or her daughter??
Did The Secret have an answer for that????

]]> By: Kate http://janedevin.com/2008/09/12/realism/comment-page-1/#comment-9708 Kate Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:22 +0000 http://janedevin.com/?p=1099#comment-9708 hmmm I had to read this several times to absorb it. IT is funny, I have all those feelings of guilt and then some, for example, I have often felt that I brought things on like I was asked for years to name something I liked about myself, and I would say my smile so I got hit in the face and a tooth knocked out and I thought that I brought that on somehow by my vanity. Or I would be thankful for something, like at least I don't have to deal with a chronic disease and then I was diagnosed....I don't have the words to say the kind of depression that this has brought into my life but your article is dead on about it hmmm I had to read this several times to absorb it. IT is funny, I have all those feelings of guilt and then some, for example, I have often felt that I brought things on like I was asked for years to name something I liked about myself, and I would say my smile so I got hit in the face and a tooth knocked out and I thought that I brought that on somehow by my vanity. Or I would be thankful for something, like at least I don’t have to deal with a chronic disease and then I was diagnosed….I don’t have the words to say the kind of depression that this has brought into my life but your article is dead on about it

]]> By: Donna L. Faber http://janedevin.com/2008/09/12/realism/comment-page-1/#comment-9707 Donna L. Faber Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:01:12 +0000 http://janedevin.com/?p=1099#comment-9707 Melissa ... I think you've hit upon it quite succinctly. I get it now. D~ Melissa … I think you’ve hit upon it quite succinctly. I get it now.

D~

]]> By: Melissa Cunningham http://janedevin.com/2008/09/12/realism/comment-page-1/#comment-9706 Melissa Cunningham Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:09:39 +0000 http://janedevin.com/?p=1099#comment-9706 Dear Jane, What an amazing post. Like another reader said, this is a thought I've had....I've tried pathetically to express it on the odd occasion...but you've nailed it completely. A therapist once gave me a set of cards by Jerry and Esther Hicks and asked for my feedback. I told her they were very dangerous and I would strongly encourage her to think twice before giving them to any of her other patients. While many of them were beautiful and inspirational...there were some like this: "Nothing Happens Without My Having Invited It". I told her that I was pretty sure I hadn't invited my bone marrow disorder....and certainly hadn't invited it to transition into acute leukemia. I was generally a happy, positive person without a DEATHWISH! If the universe needed to give me such an enormous kick in the ass, I truly wish it would have chosen some other means. Believe me, I've spent some tortured hours wondering what it is I've done - in this life or another -- that deserved this level of punishment...wondering why God or the universe hated me so much. I've decided to stop blaming myself and I try my best to cut off this type of thinking if it tries to get a foothold in my mind again. I agree with your point about the pervasiveness of this kind of thinking in our culture....it's seeping insidiously into the zeitgeist as we speak. Thank you so much for your thoughtful analysis and commentary on this important topic. Dear Jane, What an amazing post. Like another reader said, this is a thought I’ve had….I’ve tried pathetically to express it on the odd occasion…but you’ve nailed it completely. A therapist once gave me a set of cards by Jerry and Esther Hicks and asked for my feedback. I told her they were very dangerous and I would strongly encourage her to think twice before giving them to any of her other patients. While many of them were beautiful and inspirational…there were some like this: “Nothing Happens Without My Having Invited It”. I told her that I was pretty sure I hadn’t invited my bone marrow disorder….and certainly hadn’t invited it to transition into acute leukemia. I was generally a happy, positive person without a DEATHWISH! If the universe needed to give me such an enormous kick in the ass, I truly wish it would have chosen some other means. Believe me, I’ve spent some tortured hours wondering what it is I’ve done – in this life or another — that deserved this level of punishment…wondering why God or the universe hated me so much.

I’ve decided to stop blaming myself and I try my best to cut off this type of thinking if it tries to get a foothold in my mind again.

I agree with your point about the pervasiveness of this kind of thinking in our culture….it’s seeping insidiously into the zeitgeist as we speak.

Thank you so much for your thoughtful analysis and commentary on this important topic.

]]> By: Laura http://janedevin.com/2008/09/12/realism/comment-page-1/#comment-9705 Laura Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:38:56 +0000 http://janedevin.com/?p=1099#comment-9705 Another post that hit me in the gut, Jane. In a good way. I think it was John who said something about an onion in another comment, and how you're good at peeling the layers. You are incredibly good at that, and make me think about things I've never thought of, or think about them in a new way. Another post that hit me in the gut, Jane. In a good way. I think it was John who said something about an onion in another comment, and how you’re good at peeling the layers. You are incredibly good at that, and make me think about things I’ve never thought of, or think about them in a new way.

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