Olympic medalist Marion Jones was sentenced to six months in jail yesterday on two counts of perjury, after admitting to lying to federal investigators about her steroid use. Following the serving of her sentence, Jones will be on probation for two years and serve 800 hours of community service.
Somehow, I am reminded of Martha Stewart. Perhaps because in both cases, the judges wanted to impress on their defendants and the public the seriousness of lying.
“I want people to think twice before lying,” Judge Karas said to Marion Jones. “I want to make them realize no one is above the law.”
“Lying to government agencies during the course of an investigation is a very serious matter,” said Judge Miriam Cedarbaum at Martha Stewart’s sentencing. “A term of incarceration is justified and appropriate in this case.”
Lying to investigators and obstruction of justice are, it goes without saying, against the law. Jones pled guilty, and a jury convicted Stewart. Both begged for mercy from their respective judges and some would argue that their sentences were lenient. I won’t argue that point. (I won’t even talk about the dozens of (male) athletes who consistently denied steroid use, and who received only suspensions or a slap on the wrist, although I’m sure someone will – and should). Instead, what I’d like to talk about is Dick Cheney’s Halliburton and middle-class outrage.
One dead giveaway of a middle-class person is obvious sticker shock. When we see the prices at a high-end restaurant, or a brand name clothing store, our eyebrows raise and our mouths fall open in disbelief. We can’t help it. Our middle class sensibilities began when we first heard the word ‘no’ and realized that it applied to us. In prepubescence we learned that work is hard, money doesn’t grow on trees and that one day we, too, would appreciate generic cans of surprise fruit and “slightly-off” bargain basement jeans, even if we did have to hem two inches from one leg, or cover a cigarette burn on the calf with a Peace patch.
When we got our first minimum wage paycheck from that summer job we needed “in order to learn what responsibility means”, we began to understand that there’s no such thing as easy money. We began to look at price tags in terms of labor hours: a two-hour T-shirt, an eight-hour concert, a 40 hour leather jacket.
Now, as hard-working adults, we budget even our spontaneity. We faithfully add $10 a week to our Christmas Club accounts, and keep a cookie jar of “mad money” that rarely goes past two digits. Our impulse to buy the latest gadget is tempered by knowing we’ll have to pack our lunches for the next six months. And anytime we have to write a check that has more zeroes before the decimal point than after, we feel a little faint.
While it’s true that many of us are stunned by the $9,000,000,000,000.00 (nine TRILLION) dollar debt of our Bush-plundered nation, we understand democracy in action. When the majority of our peers (or the U.S. Supreme Court) hands us a President, he belongs to all of us, come prosperity and good times — or scandal, corruption, and war. We understand the give-and-take of taxes and government budgets, and know that eventually, even if it takes decades ( and it will), we’ll work together to ease this astounding debt.
It’s the obvious pillaging of our communal coffers by private corporations that really throws us into apocalyptic shock, and topping the list of thieving, ink-stained hands are those belonging to Dick Cheney’s pals at Halliburton.
Even though Halliburton moved their base of operations out of the U.S. in March, 2007 and into the friendlier country of Dubai so that they could save paying taxes on the billions of dollars of profit they enjoyed through their no-bid U.S. contracts – and even though they divested themselves of their most controversial subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR), last April – Halliburton continues to be a source of angst for many Americans, particularly those who don’t like being gouged, exploited, lied to, railroaded, evaded, and shut out.
The list of Halliburton’s crimes and misdeeds against America is staggering. Billions of dollars are missing, billions more were wasted. Among the charges spelled out in Senate Democratic Policy Committee (DPC) hearings held from 2003-2006:
* Halliburton billed taxpayers $1.4 billion in questionable and undocumented charges under its contract to supply troops in Iraq, as documented by the Pentagon’s own auditors.
* Halliburton charged taxpayers for services that it never provided and tens of thousands of meals that it never served.
* Halliburton employees burned new trucks on the side of the road because they didn’t have the right wrench to change a tire — and knew that the trucks could be replaced on a profitable “cost-plus” basis, at taxpayer expense.
* Halliburton chose a subcontractor to build an ice factory in the desert even though its bid was 800 percent higher than an equally qualified bidder.
* Halliburton actively discouraged cooperation with U.S. government auditors, sent one whistleblower into a combat zone to keep him away from auditors, and put another whistleblower under armed guard before kicking her out of the country.
* Under its no-bid contract to rebuild Iraq’s oil infrastructure contract, Halliburton overcharged by over 600 percent for the delivery of fuel from Kuwait.
Before he became Vice President, Cheney sold his stock in Halliburton to the tune of $20 million, and assigned any future profit to an irrevocable charitable trust. The question is not whether Cheney is now profiting from government contracts – the answer would appear to be no – the question is how Halliburton became the beneficiary of such wealth in the first place.
It can hardly be denied that Halliburton has a long history of corruption and war profiteering. Under Cheney’s guidance, the company engaged in fraudulent accounting practices, which added $89 million dollars in revenue to their bottom line. Halliburton paid 7.5 million as a settlement to the Securities Exchange Commission to avoid a lawsuit, even as former employees stepped forward to indicate the problem was much deeper and more pervasive than the SEC originally thought.
While Cheney was leading Halliburton, millions in allegedly illegal payments were made to Nigerian officials by Halliburton’s subsidiary, KBR, for the construction of a natural-gas plant in Nigeria. There’s also the $73 million dollars that Halliburton is accused of making when, again, under Cheney’s reign, they defied U.S. sanctions and did business with Iraq, Iran, and Libya. Then there’s the $7 billion dollar no-bid contract awarded to KBR, and more – so much more that we, the wide-eyed, mouth-agape middle class have to wonder — who’s going to jail?
While judges are busy making big public examples out of small-time crime mavens like Marion Jones and Martha Stewart, the wheels of justice in Washington seem to have skipped off the wagon .
In 2005, Senate Republicans defeated a measure that would have established a special committee to investigate Halliburton, but promised that hearings would be held by a subcomittee of the Armed Services Committee, led by John Ensign, R-NV. They also stated that Special Inspector General for Iraqi Reconstruction would conduct an investigation. Two years and two months later, the American public is still waiting.
Bunnatine H. Greenhouse is waiting, too. Greenhouse, you probably (don’t) recall, was the chief civilian procurement executive for the Army Corps or Engineers, who was removed from her job after criticizing the no-bid contract the U.S. signed with Halliburton-KBR. “I can unequivocally state that the abuse related to contracts awarded to KBR represents the most blatant and improper abuse I have witnessed,” said Greenhouse during the DPC hearings. Those strong words, coming from a twenty-year government veteran, have faded into the background of diversionary politics, including overall debate about the Middle East and Senate tub-thumping during an election year.
Those of us who remember Whitewater – the Republican-led witch hunt against the Clintons which took 12 years and cost taxpayers $70M (and which Ken Starr, lacking sufficient evidence, gleefully turned into a sex scandal) – have to wonder at the hypocrisy. The Clintons lost money on the Whitewater venture, and it was their own money, not the U.S. taxpayers. In the end, fourteen people were convicted on various charges, many not related to Whitewater. There was no evidence of financial or ethical wrong-doing by either Bill or Hillary Clinton.
Where’s the call to investigative arms with Halliburton and KBR? Where’s the fiery outrage of the conservative moralists now? How is it possible that those who claim to hold taxpayer money in higher regard than their “tax and spend” liberal counterparts have turned a blind eye to the outrageous thefts perpetrated by Halliburton and company?
The same right-wing politicians who screamed impeachment over one President’s private sexual activity, have stood in vocal and voting solidarity with a President and Vice-President who have lied to the American people, thrown our military into an unjust war, brought the country to the brink of financial ruin, usurped the U.S. Constitution with the Patriot Act, arrogantly defied the Geneva Convention, ignored the United Nations, advocated torture, and broken both promises and treaties.
We shouldn’t be surprised that the demagogues of the right-wing have turned blind, deaf and dumb when it comes to the abuses of Halliburton and Company, but we are. We’re surprised that the issue of anabolic steroid use received more Congressional attention in 2003, 2004 and 2005 than the issue of billions of missing dollars and Halliburton’s war profiteering. But what really throws us for a loop is the spinelessness of the Democrat-majority Congress we elected in 2006, which has not stood up to the Bush administration as we expected it to, or taken the type of swift, immediate action we wanted to stop the hemorrhaging of U.S. tax dollars.
Election year or not, divided or not, our nation owes its taxpayers a strict accounting, and it’s the job of Congress to ensure that we get one, and to see to it that those who are responsible for perhaps the largest and most collusive theft in the history of the United States are brought to bear.
That would be an example worth setting.
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Great article as usual Jane. Thanks
Hurrah Jane!
Yes, where are all the convictions? Where is the call to impeach?
my many letters to Ms Pelosi go un-answered.
RIGHT ON!!!
And should we talk about the deaths of Halliburton employees? The kidnapping and rapes of women by KBR employees? What the hell is the government doing?
In 2005, I read that Halliburton was under a criminal investigation. What happened to that??? http://www.counterpunch.org/parkin05102005.html The 212 million in overcharges doesn’t even begin to count what’s happened since, or what was never counted in the first place, like those hand towels that just had to be embroidered with the Halliburton logo……at taxpayer expense.
Yep, add me to the list of people PISSED OFF by the lack of action.
(Not to pissed off though to laugh at the generic cans of surprise fruit…….which were sometimes beef stew. We had those too, Jane!)
I don’t even know where to begin, my level of frustration is just so high. Should they be impeached? Well it seems almost a little too late. WTF is up with our Senators and Halliburton? Seems to me that if this happened when a Dem. was Pres., Americans would have had this story on the news every night, and there would have been no end to politicians demanding accountabilty. I was so angry just reading the examples here, but then I clicked on the links and read the Halliburton Watch and my head almost exploded. How many Americans could have had health care for just the money Halliburton wasted?
Burning trucks on the side of the road because of a flat tire? Billing for projects that were never completed? Charging us for a Superbowl party? And they’re not the only ones! Halliburtons excesses were only copied by others. They DID set an example, and it was a terrible one.
Well yeah, as long as we can throw Marion Jones in prison I guess all is well. Rip her away from her two young kids and punish her MORE because simply losing everything she ever had including her medals, her dignity, and her livelihood just wasn’t enough.
Can you hear me screaming?
I am so disgusted with our country right now, and even the election doesn’t promise an end to the crap we’ve endured. And will Halliburton ever give the money back, or will they just pay some pittance of a fine while they continue to rake in billions of tax-free profits from America, as they gloat on some Middle East island.
Disgusting!
Every time I read an article like yours I ask what I can do. I have written, demostrated, made calls, donated, and nothing changes. So can anybody tell me what I (we) can do? Who will listen and change things?
I feel sad for Marion. It seems to me that everything she worked for went up in a puff of smoke, and I don’t know what she’ll do now that she really has nothing left. I don’t agree with what she did, and think steroids have ruined sports, but I also think that she has been punished enough. From what I’ve read, she lost her house and has less than 2k in the bank. She’ll never find another sponsor, and won’t be hired as a coach, so what’s left for her? The sentence to me seems ultra-harsh, especially since she pled guilty and admitted she lied. Others have lied and didn’t get anything, and didn’t even lose their jobs.
She was a great talent, with or without The Clear, and I guess that she regrets her actions more than anybody.
As for Cheney and Halliburton and politics, all I can say is I hope it ends soon. I hope whoever gets in office is tough on the issues, and doesn’t trade favors.
Checquoline – I feel the same way. I think all we can do is keep at it? Keep writing, don’t forget, or let them forget. Keep calling, keep demanding. And when you vote for someone, let them know why and what you expect. What else can we do?
You once said that history wouldn’t be kind or forgiving of Bush’s presidency, and I have to say, especially after reading this that I agree. I had no idea about some of these things. I knew they were under investigation (?) for some time but I had no idea how much money was involved.
I feel bad for Marion, too.
Bravo, Bravo, Bravo! Awesome article Jane!
Jane, You’re so right about the laws being applied selectively and the sentencing even more so. Justice is neither blind nor indifferent to your net worth and personal connections. It’s so infuriating to see how in-your-face the double standards are.
Hey, Jane and Allison– Major props to your girl on Meet the Press today. Russert crafted every single question for the whole hour to try and make Hillary look bad, stumble, walk into a trap–his usual tactics designed to take someone down that the NBC brass doesn’t like. (Remember the last Dem debate that Russert moderated?) She may still not be my first choice but her combination of intellect, strength and poise shone through and Russert was left with no points for punches that landed. I’m sure he and Matthews met for many drinks after the show.
As for all you reformed Boone’s Farm winos, my more refined tastes had me opting for the jug sangria served in pitchers loaded with waterlogged fruit. Mmmmm….Nothing like a cheap high.
Rosie (http://www.rosie.com) had MJ on her blog today & talked about Scooter Libby who George bush pardoned even though he lied to the CIA about how Valerie Plane was discovered. It’s a double standard all right, & it’s also about rich white men in politics verses an already destroyed black woman.
Whatever happened to all that Enron money? Did investors ever get any of it back?
Rigas & son only got fifteen years for billions of dollars in theft. There are crack addicts who got more than that for possession.
The white collar criminals are, it seems, are hardly caught & when they are they get next to nothing for their crimes. It’s sick.
I agree with what so many people here have said & feel better knowing that there’s other people out there who care about the same things.
Alison, I saw that & thought she did great!
(and I’m a fruity Sangria girl too!)
I don’t consider myself a naive person, Jane, but I had no idea the problem with Halliburton was this bad. I heard about the no-bid conract, and that a few million went unaccounted for, but I had no idea about all these other accusations.
Even if 20% of what is alleged is true, how devastating that is for us, for America. As a fiscal conservative, which is why I belong to the Republican party, I’m SHOCKED that the Congress has not jumped on this aggressively. And if I read you right, they’re still doing business with them? How can that even happen? If the Democrats had hearings and learned what was printed here, why hasn’t all business with Halliburton been suspended?
Like I said, I’m just shocked, like I’ve been hit with a ton of bricks. I’m glad I found your blog, I have learned so much.
To Checoline, I feel the EXACT same way!
Alison, Russert was just about salivating the night Obama took Iowa. He had a scary wild look, he was giddy with excitement that Hillary didn’t do well. You know, the way the press fawns over him, you would think Obama was the second coming…
I just don’t have this confidence in him.
I hope Marion can get all this over with, and go be happy with her children.
I just can’t condemn her for what she did with all the hypocracy and lies everywhere else.
She has shown remorse, admitted her wrong doing. That is more than any of those criminals have done.
Checquoline, and Lonnie, keep fighting the good fight. that is what it really means to be an American. That is why I feel strongly about impeachment. It is not okay to let these criminals get away with all these hideous, heinous, crimes against humanity. We have a system set up for that, it’s called Impeachment. It has certainly been pulled out and used for less! I feel strongly that we look to the rest of the world and to ourselves, like we don’t abide by our own system of government. It is wrong.
I say we all get together on Jane’s Blog 01/20/09, and toast to a new day, a new direction together, with the beverage of our choice! What do you say Jane? it will all be a done deal then, we can have a blog bye bye W party.
Peace
I am definitely open to a celebration party, Allison! I’ll bring the coffee and Baileys. I cannot imagine anything but a celebration — anything other than a Democratic win will, I think, send me spiraling into a dark depression, or starting a revolution in the streets. I am so sorry I missed the Russert interview, I’ll have to see if the video has been posted on the net. – Jane
http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/?gclid=CODVzLGN9ZACFQMsFQodzSSm0Q
Senator Wexler is calling for Cheney’s impeachment. You can add your name to the list with the above link.
Jane, excellent article. Don’t go into a depression, go into the streets and I, for one, will join you, lol.
I wish your story could be read on TV and put in every newspaper across the country. It’s amazing how many people don’t know about this.
It’s also amazing how every rotten, underhanded thing the Rebublicans do, gets swept under the rug, while they go after the Clintons full force with any little tidbit they can find, to blow it all out of proportion.
I can remember reading years ago about how the SS would sneak Phylis George in a side door to “meet” with president Ford. You may be a little too young to remember that Jane. That was mentioned and then dropped the way everything else any Rebublican has done over the years has been dropped and swept under the rug. I think of that when I think of what they did to Bill and it makes me see red.
Dear Jane
Looking forward to catching up from where I last was under the assumption, that you were going to take a break from your blogsite, to work on your book…smile…
(the song on now is JONI MITCHELL
“THE GALLERY”)…timing is everything.
We are gathering…
Here…
There..
*”Well behaved women rarely make history”
lets get angry~intolerent of the way the boy children are playing~make them pick up their toys and go home~your mothers calling…
We women have a stronger value~bond~ that our men are just starting to understand.
We gave birth to them.
*Shriver
This MUST be an election year!!!. Is this all FACT based that you can back up 100%. I find it stange that many of your readers who have left comments have never even heard about a lot of what you wrote. One would have thought that ALL the anti-war activists would have made certain all of this information was published for all to see. Where are the voices of the George SorosWhy does only you and the likes of Rosie O’Donnell see this connection.
Karen, hello again my Bahamian critic. The links to the original sources of information are in the article, look for the dotted and underlined portions. – Jane
Hi
This is stange. Your “comment” counter total which appears at the top of my page says “#comment- 6775″ yet I am only able to read 21 comments on this Article. What does that mean? My suspicious mind tells me that 6,754 comments did not meet your criteria to appear on your Blog. If you block me Jane, then I am doing something right and you my dear are up to no good and are trying to play games with peoples’ minds this Election year.
LOL, Karen. It would indeed be a feat to block over 6000 comments — and I would be more popular than the New York Times. Instead, suspicious one, the comment #’s are written by Wordpress code, and have nothing to do with the actual # of comments on the blog. I’ll only block you if you get truly annoying and/or paranoid. – Jane
Oh Jane, I thought your links to original sources would lead me where the TRUE facts are. When I clicked on “list of Halliburton’s Crimes” I was shocked to see the heading “TOP TWENTY IRAQ OVERSIGHT OUTRAGES UNCOVERED BY THE DPC”. What does DPC stand for – al-righ-ty then!!
P.S. Suspicious yes (and rightly so) but annoying – PLEASE – that honour was awarded to your good friend Rosie O’Donnell. Jane I am just so sick and tired of all the games that are played leading up to an election, both here in my own country and in yours. Truly, this is why people will NEVER come together as one. The damage done to people during election years is never mended because 4 or 5 years is not long enough to mend it before another election year rolls around – AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY THOSE WHO THINK PEACE CAN BE ACHIEVED IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!
Oh yeah, Karen, you’re soooooo right……if the DPC is comprised of DEMOCRATS then we have to KNOW it’s all lies.
Turn around and cover yourself, your agenda is showing! That, and your enormously pessimistic attitude?
You mean there are people that think peace can be achieved in the Middle East? SAY IT AIN’T SO! Whatever would we do then with all those BILLIONS of dollars we pour into war? What??? Provide health care for kids and the poor? Decent medical benefits for our elderly? Build better schools? Educate MORE people?
Wow wow wow. How can people be so bloody idealistic? ///sarcasm///
Women coming together, loud and strong!
Not to leave out all you men who get it…
I have never felt so compelled to share my thoughts in the past.
My Lesbian daughter has reached over 400 people blogging on her my space for Hillary Clinton. She provided reminders to her community about promises made to the LBGT community and promptly forgotten by Obama. She feels he is taking the black vote for granted and leaving her community out entirely.
She has had a great response from people, and I am so proud of her.
Joni Mitchell’s newest is called “Shine”
Her soft voice sounds so soothing, but the message is LOUD
It has become a neverending loop in my car. Here is my mantra
Strong and Wrong
Strong and wrong you win-
Only because
That’s the way it’s always been.
Men love War!
That’s what history’s for.
History…
A mass murder mystery…
His story
Strong and wrong
You lose everything
Without the heart
You need
To hear a robin sing
Where have all the songbirds gone?
Gone!
All I hear are crows in flight
Singing might is right
Might is right!
Oh the dawn of man comes slow
Thousands of years
And here we are
Still worshiping
Our own ego
Strong and wrong
What is God’s will?
Onward Christian Soldiers…
Or thou shall not kill…
Men love war!
Is that what God is for?
Just a rabbit’s foot?
Just a lucky paw
For shock and awe?
Shock and awe!
The dawn of man comes slow
Thousands of years
Here we are
Still worshiping our own ego
Strong and wrong!
Joni Mitchell “Shine” 2007
Sold at Starbucks
Brilliant article, Ms. Devin. The scales of justice grow ever more weighted under the oppressive foot of this administration. Marion Jones was used by the system to teach the public a lesson, yet what lessons are the public to learn from their government? Presently, those who would take the lesson without applying logic to it are learning that the U.S. military is an extension of big business, namely oil, and that government is a free trade market in of itself, i.e., favor trading and add-on legislation.
I hope that Barack Obama wins the nomination. If not, then I will vote for the candidate who seems most likely to actually change the quid-pro-quo, corporate style government.
Thank you for the opportunity to respond.
It will be interesting to see who Bush pardons in his last days in office, won’t it?
This is why it is so critical that people are “educated” on the true issues we are facing. Come November we have to make sure we get it right. There has been entirely too much focus on race, gender and religion in this race so far. Before we go into the voting booth we must make sure our decision is made on the facts and not hearsay. Listening to some of the arguments so far has sickened me to no end the last being the misunderstanding over Hillary Clinton’s remark involving Dr. Martin Luther King. Any person who was alive in the 60′s knows the problems this nation faced. The beatings, dog attacks outright descrimination could not have been resolved just by marching. Someone in power had to put pen to paper and say the injustice has to stop! And that person just happened to be a white man who was running the most powerful country in the world. This is all Senator Clinton was saying. We as a nation, because of our stupidity, our leadership (or lack thereof) over the last 7 years and the corruption in our government have been set back 25 years OR MORE! We have become the laughing stock of the world. Our military is so scattered, that we would have a hard time defending OURSELVES in the event of an outside attack. Our economy is the worst ever. We depend on our friends for oil whou are gouging us at every turn. And yes, we move our companies to foreign countries to avoid taxes. And yet we pride ourselves on being the greatest nation in the word. How ironic when we can’t even elect a president without playing the race card or slandering!
God help us!
This race thing is really becoming an ugly dividing factor.
One of the media said something to the effect that Hillary Clinton shouldn’t be mentioning anything about Dr. King.
Why not? She lived during the times, was relating her experience in that context.
Because she is running against a black man, and she is white, the civil rights movement should be off-limits to her? Her point was indeed valid. Obama and others taking these verbal pot shots, to select audiences, then sitting down in interviews and saying something else entirely. For someone who will be soo different, he sure knows how to play the SAME OLD GAME.
Liberals have been trying to destroy this country for years and are mad because they did not succeed, they didn’t get America to love the terrorists, all of us holding hands while they hold knives. And none of you deserve the freedom our young men have so bravely fought for. Take your peace signs and rainbow flags to Canada. Real Americans don’t want you here!!! Real Americans understand sacrifice. Real Americans don’t belittle The President but support him with all their might. United we stand! Divided we fall! YOu are the greate divideers.
WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER FOUR YEARS AND A CENTURY AFTER THAT!!!!
Allison, I think the media was to blame for very intentionally fanning the racial flames, more so than either the Clinton or Obama camps who would risk alienating either black or white voting blocks, depending on which candidate gets the nomination. I’m convinced the current plan by the corporate media was to divide the Dems with misquotes and mischaracterizations, turn them into racial accusations and innuendo (all guaranteed to generate emotionally charged responses and counter responses etc…) while they sit back, laugh and watch us fracture our own party with in-fighting. They are so effing manipulative. Then the Republican nominee just saunters into the general election with a ton of Dems too angry and disgusted to vote for the other Democrat that they feel robbed their first choice of a place on the ticket by “playing the race card”. I hope people see through this divide and conquer effort the network and cable stations are all trying to achieve.
I just hope we can all stick together and not take the bait. The Clintons certainly don’t deserve to be called racists and nobody called Obama’s candidacy a fairytale. They both, and my guy Edwards (who has been purposely all but airbrushed out of the picture by the media) need to not let themselves get sucked into these narratives. Better yet, they should expose them for what they are.
I love the Allison/Alison’s! That’s how two people who support different candidates but the same side show unity. I always like JohnM’s & Rebeca’s posts too. Such smart people on this board.
As for the ranting troll above, best ignored!
I saw on CNN tonight that Barack & Hillary have decided no more fighting between their campaigns. Pres/VP shaping up to be reality? That would be so awesome. An African American & a Woman, together!
It was good to see the debate last night.
All three were at their best once again.
At first, I didn’t think the so-called moderators were going to let the ugly thing die, but when it became clear that this was a much needed united front, they finally let it go.
I am still liking what I hear from Hillary. She has real plans in place and ready to go. We know that all three wants us out of Iraq, and that is good to finally hear!
Finally some real talk, when Hillary reminded us that the republicans still want to occupy…for who knows how long. Universal healthcare, maybe there is hope…
Calling Bush pathetic for begging the Saudi’s for a price reduction. Pathetic Indeed.
Alison, Oh yeah I can hardly stand to see the media spin machine in action.
It is so out of control.
RosieFan, Thanks, I hope we all are recognized for how we individually represent our feelings and opinions here.
Jane is the catylist for so many of us, and I love hearing from everyone on all the different, and relevent issues. People communicating is always a good thing!
Hi A.P., good to see you!
I’ll have a new post up late night Thursday. The next few posts will be about perception / odd psychology.
Thanks to all.
I’ve been waiting for this (I think!)!!!
Are you going to tell the story about the 15 year old in the hospital again? I have told everyone I know that story!
I’m ont so much into this political stuff. But I still read. Prefer your stories about everytday people more though!
Hi AP, so good to see you!
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